Gunter Friedrich (LOGON) interviewed the biophysicist and consciousness researcher Dieter Broers. – The sun has all the physical attributes to embody the Spirit.
Quantum-physically, a dimensional gateway opens up to us today via an interface to the spiritual worlds.
G.Fr.
Dieter, I am pleased to be able to interview you for our next issue of LOGON, which will deal with the topic of “fire”. You work at the interface between scientific research and spiritual knowledge. In this interface lies a tremendous opportunity for the future. The relationship between spirit and nature, the question of how scientific and spiritual knowledge complement each other, can open the door to a new attitude towards life, a new way of dealing with each other and a new relationship with nature.
One of your books is entitled Sonnenzeit – Aufbruch in eine neue Ära (Sun time – the dawn of a new era, 2013). In it you write: “The sun is more than a glowing ball of gas that warms our earth. It is a spiritual principle.” What did you mean by that?
D.Br.
After much scientific reflection, especially through the work of Burkhard Heim [1925-2001], who has established a holistic view of the world in which spirit and matter are seen as one, I have come to the conclusion that the sun corresponds, so to speak, to our higher self. I also believe I have understood why the cult of the sun was so important in almost all ancient cultures, especially for Pharaoh Akhenaten [geb. 1372 v.Chr.], who saw the creator god Aton in the sun and introduced monotheism. What is really spirit may have been discussed philosophically, but has not yet really arrived in natural science. The sun has all the physical attributes to embody spirit. In this context, I was very impressed by plasma research. Plasma is a different state of aggregation than we know from solid matter. The sun is a large plasma body and has all the attributes of a highly intelligent living being. From a quantum physics point of view, it communicates with us as an entity via physical fields.
G.Fr.
People in almost all ancient cultures had an intimate relationship with the sun. They experienced this relationship, felt it. The Egyptians also spoke of the sun god Re, the visible sun, and the sun god Amun, the invisible sun.
You now come to similar results with natural scientific observation, that is, with today’s consciousness. First of all, they are results of the mind. The question now is whether we can also experience them with our soul. Can we inwardly establish a relationship with the soul body of the sun?Is a return of ancient knowledge taking place today, a renewed transmission of a kind of primordial information?
D.Br.
I am convinced of that. When I make a comparison from a scientific / quantum physical point of view, I would like to remind you once again that without the sun no life would be possible. It has a life-giving effect. It does something that we cannot do. And for this purpose, it brings us much more than just physical light. Light is part of an electromagnetic spectrum, a medium to make the body function in the first place. The elementary particles, too, ultimately came into being through the action of the sun. All particles that make up matter were created from solar particles. Here we find an interface between the divine-spiritual dimensions, the source, the origin, the apeiron, to what we call the world we are in now.
If you take conservative physics, the sun is a mass body. Mass and gravity go together. The sun has so much mass that its gravitational waves have a strong effect on us. After all, it has tens of times the mass of the Earth. The gravitational waves also have a spiritual aspect, spiritual dimensions work in them, quasi from above. The sun functions as an interface to the spiritual dimensions. It represents our higher self, so to speak, and is, therefore, a part of us. So there are demonstrable interactions between solar activities and our behaviour on earth.
G.Fr.
The interesting thing is that our development does not simply come out of us, but that the impulses for that development come towards us. The light comes towards us from the sun. Things, possibilities, are offered to us as a gift. In many lectures, talks and books you have shown that the earth’s magnetic field has been weakening for a long time because the solar flares have increased greatly. Could you briefly outline again what this scenario does to humanity in general?
D.Br.
Without the magnetic fields as natural fields, we would be without consciousness. They enable, for example, the process of realising that “I am”, our self-awareness. The role of magnetic fields is is well known from space travel. Decades ago, we experienced for the first time how it feels to be further away from the earth’s magnetic field. Particular psychological abnormalities came to light. I had connections to space medicine through my father-in-law and was also allowed to take part in some actions in Russia. The so-called space sickness was a psychological phenomenon through which the space travellers, when they were further away from the earth’s magnetic field, no longer fulfilled their tasks as they should have done. They apparently saw through what they were caught up in. They sensed or recognised the meaning of life and refused to carry out certain tasks.I then researched the phenomena further in this direction, also with Prof. Trofimov, who did this in Russia. He said that we know that the earth’s magnetic field will continue to decrease in strength and at some point we will generally have the same conditions on earth as the cosmonauts first experienced. That’s why we want to prepare ourselves for that.
And that is also the reason why I talk and write about it so much.
G.Fr.
I had the opportunity to meet and talk with Alexander Trofimov in 2016 at your big congress in Vienna. He proved that new possibilities of consciousness open up when we live in reduced magnetic fields.
D.Br.
As you said, something is coming towards us: the radiation spectrum of the sun. But this can only have an effect on us to the extent that a resonance arises in us. For both oscillators must vibrate in the same way, otherwise there is no transmission. We can only receive the spiritual information that concerns our higher, our true self, if we also raise the vibration within ourselves. So something is coming towards us, but it depends on us whether it reaches us or not. Each individual decides this by his willingness to raise the vibration. If I go into the readiness of joy, into the readiness for awakening, this corresponds to a higher vibrational and electro-magnetic frequency. The sun vibrates on different and very high vibrational spectra. We have to raise ourselves to be able to absorb the vibrations that are necessary for awakening. By weakening the earth’s magnetic field, qualities can be activated in us that have not yet been developed: telepathic abilities, inspirations and others. For this, however, we must not remain in passivity. Just informing ourselves about what is becoming possible is not enough. Each individual is required to make his or her contribution in order to come into this resonance and receive this divine information.
G.Fr.
So, we have the potential for resonance in a liberating sense, and we can activate that. Now, when these high vibrational forces come – which are also a major factor in global warming and which also increase the so-called Schumann frequency, the resonant frequency of the earth – and I do not align myself with this increase in vibration, I inevitably come into tension. So we have the resonance possibilities. But they should actually lead to more than mere survival strategies. They should have a transformative effect. For isn’t that the will behind the current solar activity?
D.Br.
The fire can be seen as a transformer. Matter is transformed into a higher vibrational level, which corresponds to a higher temperature, a higher vibrational electro-magnetic heat. The sun has these fire properties. By the way, we do not only have higher temperatures on Earth, but they have existed for many years on all the planets of our solar system.
G.Fr.
Can we not speak of an organism? If the sun is a living, beating, pulsating heart for all planets, for all planetary beings, then we are part of a great common organism. Then there is an increase in temperature everywhere. The spiritual aspect shows itself as joy, but does it not go beyond that?
D.Br.
We can reach the state in which we recognise the things that have blocked us up to now. In almost 40 years I have gathered experience that at very specific electro-magnetic frequencies that have a resonance with human DNA – and these are frequencies that the sun also emits – the causes of illnesses become recognisable and healing takes place. This happens through the realisation that there was a spiritual misalignment. These physical radiation frequencies come predominantly from the sun. The Schumann frequency, the resonance frequency of the earth, adjusts to it, and the frequency of the pineal gland corresponds to the Schumann frequency, which vibrates at about 8 Hz. The information from the sun puts us in a position now to work on and transform the things that were crosswise in us and that we might otherwise have to work on for incarnations to come to resolve them. Today we are at a possible transition into another world. The previous world is not dissolving. I am talking about two timelines.
For many, the ancient things of the past are coming up now and they don’t even know that this could be in a context of liberation. Those who are seriously ill suddenly realise why they have this particular illness. For awakening, it is necessary that these past events that block us come into consciousness and are processed. If I don’t feel well on certain days, if I have certain symptoms, I can ask: What is this trying to show me? These are things that want to be transformed through the fire. So it is necessary to observe, to perceive and then to feel if what is perceived is a thing that is useful for the process of awakening. Through this realisation I arrive at a release of old burdens.
G.Fr.
The resonance takes place in the head, especially via the pineal gland, it takes also place in the heart, because the heart has its own large magnetic field, and it takes place in the whole body, because there are magnetic fields everywhere in the body. If we have the willingness to enter the higher frequency inwardly, then it shows itself, as you say, in deep joy of heart, it shows itself in deepened insight, but it also shows itself in serious inner conflicts, because the whole past is flushed up by the inner warming. We see what we have actually done in the history of humanity, our self-centredness, all our life struggles. And now this central star of unity is coming towards us, which also embodies the unity of humanity. Then perhaps we can also sense the solar principle in each human being and can have a new relationship with each other that is carried by a supra-personal love. Then this raising of vibration also means soul transformation and spiritualisation.
D.Br.
We are increasingly shown what soul is. Quantum-physically, a dimensional gate opens up via an interface to the spiritual worlds. I have spoken of gravitational waves that act upon us, as it were, from above. When we go into the state of empathy, into the state of joy, the sun shows reactions to that. There is a general interaction. Prof. Persinger, whom you also met in Vienna, told me that we have now come to the proof. We have done experiments in which the sun has reacted directly, proven by measurements, to the behaviour of a few who acted out of love.
G.Fr.
I find it incredible that natural scientists can achieve such a result. If one says that the sun gives the essential impulses for the development of humanity, then this development must already have taken place on the sun. This can then only be the case with entities that live in other, higher vibrating structures – ethereal – in the solar realm. When these entities radiate their perfection to us with the help of electron currents, then there is also a reaction, a feedback. After all, we are one in the same organism. They want to draw us towards them, they want to assimilate us, as it were, to their higher state. And then, of course, there is joy. The Bible says something about the joy that reigns in heaven when a prodigal son returns home.
But isn’t there something more besides joy in heaven? Doesn’t the return of our souls also open up new possibilities of development for the entities of the sun? They are released from their archetypal role towards us when we grow towards them. And then they can develop further cosmically in the direction of their own archetypes.
D.Br.
Let’s take Akhenaten from the time of about 1350 years before Christ. There are the drawings (pictograms) of the sun’s rays coming down, with little hands at the end. I think these representations express the reaction of our behaviour towards the sun.
Naturally, everything belongs together. Separation only exists in our imagination. Microcosm and macrocosm are also one. There is also no separation between my action and a reaction to it. Let’s think of the butterfly effect from chaos research. In one place on earth a butterfly flutters and in another place there is a hurricane as a reaction to it. Everything belongs together through the medium of ether. The whole universe is an expression of life itself. With our consciousness, we have degrees of freedom that we can now use, a free will that we have so far only been able to use to a limited extent. For we have only been able to draw from a very limited contingent. We see the results of this in today’s world. But now we can see how everything is really connected. We are realising more and more that we are spirit bearers and active creators.
Within us are the same energies, the same spiritual-creative forces that have given rise to the universe. We know this inside, and quantum physics approaches this in a scientific way. It speaks of the observer effect. We bring something into reality by imagining it and going into the emotion. Awakening in that sense means an ever greater recognition of the qualities we have actually always been endowed with and that we are ultimately responsible for the world as it is now. We have allowed and followed the artificial patterns of this world. In the end, we couldn’t do any better because we were only given certain information about a world of limitation. We should have been told much earlier that we are immortal and unlimited creator beings.
Ultimately, strokes of fate and cataclysms have always been wake-up calls, not to punish us, but to remind us of our divinity.
G.Fr.
If we allow the basic idea to work on us that all matter and all organisms are condensed forms of spirit, then we can use the increase in frequency in a special way. When we enter into resonance with it, we transform something back from condensed matter into the more spiritual plane. And in doing so, we release enormous forces. Einstein’s formula shows the high energies that arise when matter is transformed into energy. And something similar probably also applies in the relationship to the spiritual. And then the new levels of being human become clear: the levels of joy, of knowledge and also of being connected with each other. We experience ourselves as potential sun bearers, as condensed sun beings. All of us have the potential to become beings of light in a higher vibrating, subtle body.
D.Br.
I see it the same way, Gunter.
G.Fr.
Thank you very much for this conversation, Dieter.
